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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;	One way it does so is by providing guidelines for appropriate speech, rooted in the belief that true freedom is inner freedom, achieved through the mastery of one's own thoughts and emotions (Grayling 2019, 113). Epictetus states, “some things are under our control, while others are not&amp;quot;, emphasizing that true freedom lies in focusing on what we can influence and accepting the inevitable with apatheia or equanimity (Enchiridion, 1; Grayling 2019, 113). He further elaborates on this concept of self-mastery in Book II of The Discourses, where he highlights the role of the faculty of expression under the guidance of the will. Here he shows that eloquence and articulate speech, while significant, must be governed by the rational will to ensure that expressions are appropriate, rational, and ethical (Chapter 22, para 4). Marcus Aurelius echoes this in &amp;quot;Meditations,&amp;quot; where he advises against being disturbed by external circumstances: &amp;quot;Thou must be like a promontory of the sea, against which though the waves beat continually, yet it both itself stands, and about it are those swelling waves stilled and quieted&amp;quot; (Meditations, 11.40). This resilience — understood within the broader context of their philosophy encompassing ethical integrity and proactive engagement — supports the Stoic belief that true freedom, including freedom of expression, comes from within and is guided by a rational and steadfast mind (Meditations, Introductions, para. 14). It encourages a form of expression that is thoughtful and measured, focused on constructive dialogue rather than reacting impusively to provocations. This corresponds to modern restrictions on speech that incites violence and promotes truthful speech without fear of societal pressure.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;	One way it does so is by providing guidelines for appropriate speech, rooted in the belief that true freedom is inner freedom, achieved through the mastery of one's own thoughts and emotions (Grayling 2019, 113). Epictetus states, “some things are under our control, while others are not&amp;quot;, emphasizing that true freedom lies in focusing on what we can influence and accepting the inevitable with apatheia or equanimity (Enchiridion, 1; Grayling 2019, 113). He further elaborates on this concept of self-mastery in Book II of The Discourses, where he highlights the role of the faculty of expression under the guidance of the will. Here he shows that eloquence and articulate speech, while significant, must be governed by the rational will to ensure that expressions are appropriate, rational, and ethical (Chapter 22, para 4). Marcus Aurelius echoes this in &amp;quot;Meditations,&amp;quot; where he advises against being disturbed by external circumstances: &amp;quot;Thou must be like a promontory of the sea, against which though the waves beat continually, yet it both itself stands, and about it are those swelling waves stilled and quieted&amp;quot; (Meditations, 11.40). This resilience — understood within the broader context of their philosophy encompassing ethical integrity and proactive engagement — supports the Stoic belief that true freedom, including freedom of expression, comes from within and is guided by a rational and steadfast mind (Meditations, Introductions, para. 14). It encourages a form of expression that is thoughtful and measured, focused on constructive dialogue rather than reacting impusively to provocations. This corresponds to modern restrictions on speech that incites violence and promotes truthful speech without fear of societal pressure.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Central to the concepts of self-mastery and inner freedom is rational discourse, which to the Stoics was not only a means of communication but a fundamental aspect of ethical living (The Ethics of the Stoics, para 2). They view humans as rational animals, with a body and a soul, where the soul's rational part (hegemonikon) resides in the heart and governs ethics, presentations, and impulses (The Ethics of the Stoics, para 2). Rational discourse originates from this leading part, which enables humans to use reason to control their responses and actions, and is itself governed by logos, or universal reason. This belief is reflected in Diogenes Laertius&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/del&gt;Lives of Eminent Philosophers, where he discusses Stoic philosophy and quotes Chrysippus of Soli and Antipater of Tyre as having said that &amp;quot;the world is ordered by reason and providence&amp;quot; and that &amp;quot;the whole world is a living being, endowed with soul and reason&amp;quot;, respectively (Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, 7.135-7.139). Humans, being part of the cosmos and therefore rational beings, are expected to align their thoughts and expressions with this cosmic rationality. Logic and dialectics play a crucial role in this process, providing the tools for clear thinking and effective reasoning. Speech is closely tied to dialectics as it enables the practice of reasoned dialogue and argumentation, which are essential for discovering and communicating truth. Stoics also believed that language naturally aligns with and captures the rational order of the world, making its study a fundamental part of their philosophy (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy 2023). Its mastery was required for attaining wisdom, as “the wise man is a true dialectician” (Laertius, Lives Eminent Philosophers, 7.1.85). Thus, for the Stoics, this facilitative role of free speech (though narrower in scope compared to modern views of expression) warranted its protection.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Central to the concepts of self-mastery and inner freedom is rational discourse, which to the Stoics was not only a means of communication but a fundamental aspect of ethical living (The Ethics of the Stoics, para 2). They view humans as rational animals, with a body and a soul, where the soul's rational part (hegemonikon) resides in the heart and governs ethics, presentations, and impulses (The Ethics of the Stoics, para 2). Rational discourse originates from this leading part, which enables humans to use reason to control their responses and actions, and is itself governed by logos, or universal reason. This belief is reflected in Diogenes Laertius&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;' &lt;/ins&gt;Lives of Eminent Philosophers, where he discusses Stoic philosophy and quotes Chrysippus of Soli and Antipater of Tyre as having said that &amp;quot;the world is ordered by reason and providence&amp;quot; and that &amp;quot;the whole world is a living being, endowed with soul and reason&amp;quot;, respectively (Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, 7.135-7.139). Humans, being part of the cosmos and therefore rational beings, are expected to align their thoughts and expressions with this cosmic rationality. Logic and dialectics play a crucial role in this process, providing the tools for clear thinking and effective reasoning. Speech is closely tied to dialectics as it enables the practice of reasoned dialogue and argumentation, which are essential for discovering and communicating truth. Stoics also believed that language naturally aligns with and captures the rational order of the world, making its study a fundamental part of their philosophy (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy 2023). Its mastery was required for attaining wisdom, as “the wise man is a true dialectician” (Laertius, Lives Eminent Philosophers, 7.1.85). Thus, for the Stoics, this facilitative role of free speech (though narrower in scope compared to modern views of expression) warranted its protection.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Such emphasis is also reflected in Aurelius’ gratitude towards his brother Severus for introducing him to prominent Stoic philosophers like Thrasea, Helvidius, Cato, Dio, and Brutus, who were known for their unwavering commitment to justice and their courage in resisting tyranny (often at great personal cost). In his Meditations, Aurelius reflects on the influence of these philosophers and their dedication to a balanced constitution and “of government founded on equity and freedom of speech and of a monarchy which values above all things the freedom of the subject” (Aurelius, Meditations,1.6 as quoted by Pigliucci, 2021). This acknowledgment by Aurelius underscores the Stoic belief in the importance of speaking truth to power and the value of open discourse in maintaining justice.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Such emphasis is also reflected in Aurelius’ gratitude towards his brother Severus for introducing him to prominent Stoic philosophers like Thrasea, Helvidius, Cato, Dio, and Brutus, who were known for their unwavering commitment to justice and their courage in resisting tyranny (often at great personal cost). In his Meditations, Aurelius reflects on the influence of these philosophers and their dedication to a balanced constitution and “of government founded on equity and freedom of speech and of a monarchy which values above all things the freedom of the subject” (Aurelius, Meditations,1.6 as quoted by Pigliucci, 2021). This acknowledgment by Aurelius underscores the Stoic belief in the importance of speaking truth to power and the value of open discourse in maintaining justice.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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|contents=While ancient Stoics did not explicitly discuss voting rights, some of their concepts and principles offer insights into how it might be perceived. One such concept is the Stoic idea of natural law, which posits that there is a universal moral order inherent in the nature of the universe and human beings (Grayling, 2019, 111-112). Living in accordance with it meant aligning one’s actions with reason, which involved practicing the four cardinal virtues: wisdom (prudence), courage, justice, and temperance (moderation). These virtues, known as aretai (plural of aretē), are always good and beneficial, as opposed to “what can sometimes have value (axia)”, such as wealth, health, and honor (Garrett, 2000; Grayling, 2019, 111). According to Stoic philosophy, though we are naturally predisposed to seek the latter due to our inherent tendency to care for ourselves (oikeiosis), they are not good as such and thus do not lead to true happiness (Grayling, 2019, 111). &lt;br /&gt;
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Justice, as one of the cardinal values, is a fundamental aspect of Stoic ethics that demands fairness and contributing to the common good. As the Roman Emperor and Stoic philosopher Marcus Aurelius (2001) states, &amp;quot;to care for all men generally, is agreeing to the nature of a man&amp;quot; (Book 3, Verse 4). It therefore goes beyond mere legalistic fairness and embodies a deeper ethical commitment to the well-being of all human beings. One way that this principle is realized is through active engagement in societal and communal affairs. Such participation allows individuals to practice the virtue of justice by advocating for policies that protect the rights and well-being of others. Voting falls within this realm of engagement, serving as a way for individuals to be involved in the political process. &lt;br /&gt;
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Other prominent Stoic figures like Cato the Younger and Seneca also highlight the importance of such involvement in the governance of one's community. Cato the Younger, a staunch defender of the Roman Republic, emphasized the importance of participating in government to safeguard one’s happiness and well-being. His words, “Some have said that it is not the business of private men to meddle with government–a bold and dishonest saying...To say that private men have nothing to do with government is to say that private men have nothing to do with their own happiness or misery,” underscore the critical importance he placed on civic engagement for both personal fulfillment and the collective good (DePriest, n.d.). This point is further illustrated by a quote commonly attributed to Seneca: “He who does not prevent a crime when he can, encourages it”. While Seneca's focus here is on the prevention of wrongdoing, it aligns with the Stoic principle of taking proactive steps to address societal issues, which voting facilitates.&lt;br /&gt;
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Assuming the Stoics would support the practice of voting, the question arises as to whether they would advocate for universal suffrage or impose certain restrictions or eligibility requirements. Their concept of natural law assumes humans to be rational beings that are capable of understanding and participating in the governance of society, suggesting that they might support broad participation in the voting process as a means to achieve just and rational outcomes. They would also emphasize the importance of citizens embodying the cardinal virtues in exercising their voting rights to ensure informed and rational participation in governance. Any further inferences would be speculative, as the Stoics did not write about specific political mechanisms like voting. It may be easier to discuss those on the other end of the voting process, i.e., candidates, as the Stoics have extensive discussions on ethical exemplars that provide more substantial guidance on what they might expect from those in positions of authority. Otherwise, the most that could be said without imposing modern interpretations is that the Stoics were strong proponents of civic participation and would emphasize the importance of virtue and rationality in those who engage in governance.&lt;br /&gt;
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Grayling, A.C. The History of Philosophy. Penguin Random House UK, 2019, 108-115.&lt;br /&gt;
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Garrett, Jan. &amp;quot;Values in Classical Stoicism.&amp;quot; Last modified August 2000. Accessed July 17, 2024. https://people.wku.edu/jan.garrett/stoa/stovals.htm.&lt;br /&gt;
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Epictetus. Discourses. Translated by George Long. MIT Classics Archive. Accessed July 17, 2024. https://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/discourses.1.one.html.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jennings DePriest. &amp;quot;Naked, Starved, Deceived, and Destroyed: A Stoic’s Guide to Elections.&amp;quot; Daily Stoic, accessed July 15, 2024. https://dailystoic.com/stoic-guide-election/.&lt;br /&gt;
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Marcus Aurelius. Meditations. Translated by J. Boulton. Project Gutenberg. Released June 1, 2001. Last updated March 9, 2021. https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2680/pg2680-images.html#link2H_4_0035.&lt;br /&gt;
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